[COLUG] another anti-spam link

Rob Funk rfunk at funknet.net
Thu Nov 29 08:46:49 EST 2007


Duane wrote:
> Let me get this right, you advocate the use of RBLs, but not something
> that works in a similar fashion? :)

I like RBLs, but only RBLs that list actual spammers (and have a mechanism 
for getting off the list when you've mended your ways), not RBLs that 
list dynamic addresses.  Basically I'm very much an 
innocent-until-proven-guilty kind of guy.

> Which if I understand correctly adds a tar pit option to postgrey, and
> if they hold the connection open for x seconds/minutes (defaults to 65)
> it accepts the mail rather then delaying it, but also delays it if they
> drop out before the tar pit timeout.

I've never been a fan of tarpits since they tie up my machine's resources 
in creating the tarpit.  But waiting a minute or so might be reasonable.

> Actually he has a pretty graph on his site, at 65 seconds tar pitting
> with postgrey he claims (july '07) 93% of spam was stopped, but at 121
> seconds it stopped what looks like 100%.

I wouldn't go two minutes; that's getting into dangerous territory with 
legitimate SMTP clients and, in the worst, case bad interaction with 
slowdowns caused by your own server load.
RFC 2821 recommends client-side timeouts of at least 2-10 minutes 
(depending on SMTP stage), and server-side timeouts of at least 5 
minutes. http://rfc-ignorant.org/rfcs/rfc2821.php#section4.5.3.2
So a client may start to have problems, at least at the DATA stage, if 
your server makes them wait two minutes.

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